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?Women: crazy? or simply DIVERSE!?

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By fishes, Section Biology
Posted on Fri Apr 30th, 2010 at 12:20:21 PM PST
PRELUDE: Men in movies, TV shows and even at the local pubs have been caught numerous times saying things like, "man, girls, they're crazy", or a permutation of such. In our culture, there is no generation gap when it comes to males bonding about females' 'unpredictability'. We hear terms like, "she's always moving the goal post", when describing a woman's tendency to change her opinion on various domestic and non-domestic issues. The dichotomy between male and female reproductive interests in primates have been of interest to researchers for quite some time (Muller and Wrangham, 2009). The male-male competition hypothesis was set forth years ago and has been addressed in a number of recent novels (Ridley, 2000, Ridley, 2003, Dawkins, 2006). As a consequence of this male-male competition, it is logical to suggest that an evolutionary pressure has been placed on human males. Let us use a concrete example for illustration purposes. Men were the 'working' sex for numerous generations. From taking on the role of "the hunter" in hunter-gatherer societies, to ruling agricultural empires in the days of monarchies (still happening in parts of the world), and until recently, occupying the majority of high-power positions in the corporate world. It can be argued that a particular type of man - one who could provide for a family - was evolutionarily selected for. Females on the other hand, were child bearers. If a man had enough resources to care for her and her children, she was (presumably) up for taking on the role. Females were not able to be as choosey at this point. If a man had the resources and chose her, she was "lucky".

 

HYPOTHESIS: I propose that until recently, there has not been as stringent a selection on females as males. As a result, our current population is made up of males who are more genetically close to one another than are females. STUDY: I propose to collect DNA from thousands, maybe millions of males and females, and sequence male Y-chromosomes and female mitochondrial genomes using next-generation sequencing (illumina). All samples will be of European descent (as these cultural statements made above are from a western point of view) and will be made anonymous. A two-way comparison will be made between the variation among female mitochondrial DNA and among male Y chromosome DNA. In other words, the within-population variation will be compared between sexes. I understand that there is much more sequence present in the mitochondrial genome of the female than the Y-chromosome of the male. To address this issue, the comparison will be normalized by using a greater number of male than female samples so the number of comparisons can be more similar. Also, bonferonni correction will be applied to both sexes and as a result, there will be more stringent statistics applied to female DNA (use smaller cut-off P values). I also understand that there is a 'pseudoautosomal region' on the Y chromosome (Rouyer et al. 1996), which would be vulnerable to admixture with female DNA. This region will not be included. REFERENCES: Dawkins R. (2006) "The Selfish Gene", Oxford printing press. Muller MN and Wrangham RW. (2009) "Sexual coercion in primates and humans: An evolutionary perspective on male aggression against females", Harvard College. Ridley M. (2000) "Genome", Harper Perennial printing co. Ridley M. (2003) "The red queen", Harper Perennial printing co. Rouyer F, Simmler M, Johnsson C, Vergnaud G, Cooke H, Weissenbach J. (1986), Nature, 319:291 - 295.
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Women: crazy? or simply DIVERSE!? | 6 comments (6 topical, 0 editorial)
[new] Why mitochondria and Y-chromosome? (none / 0) (#1)
by kjs86 on Thu Apr 29th, 2010 at 02:58:55 PM PST
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Seems like a controversial (and therefore interesting) topic! I was wondering why you would choose mitochondria and the Y-chromosome? I know mitochondria is passed down maternally and such, but couldn't you use the same chromosome in females as in males and look at SNPs?



[new] re y chromosome and mtchDNA (none / 0) (#5)
by fishes on Fri Apr 30th, 2010 at 05:07:17 PM PST
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I don't think looking at SNPs would tell you anything about differential sexual evolution. Every generation, male and female autosomes mix up. How would you tell which SNPs were from female lineages and which SNPs were from male lineages?

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[new] Women: crazy? or simply DIVERSE!? (none / 0) (#2)
by JLam on Thu Apr 29th, 2010 at 08:08:56 PM PST
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Cool idea Fishes. The results of this experiment would definitely be interesting. The only concern I have is that even though males are the ones who choose females (historically), it doesn't mean females are chosen randomly. While males were evolutionarily selected based on the ability to hunt/provide, one would think that females are evolutionarily selected based on attractiveness and ability to have healthy children, since the males would look for these characteristics. So while I think the selective pressures were/are different, the level of diversity is probably similar.



[new] interesting (none / 0) (#3)
by smile on Thu Apr 29th, 2010 at 11:44:23 PM PST
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Such an interesting idea! But i'm totally agree with JLam. The selection pressure for both sexes should be the same. Since the healthy women will have more children compared to those weak one due to the high mortality rate during childbirth. Definitely the attractiveness of women always play a certain role here.

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[new] Selection (none / 0) (#4)
by xerro five on Fri Apr 30th, 2010 at 09:47:42 AM PST
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True, but then could we say that the selective pressures overall were equal between the sexes yet the traits selected for were more diverse in females compared to males? My reason for bringing it up is that it seems to me that the provider male role is quite common (not just across races, but even in many other animal species) so perhaps only traits leading to this were selected for in males. For females however, although traits contributing to healthy children would of course be shared, the exact role of females in cultures and species differs more compared to the general provider male. If true, then perhaps the more diverse collection of goals leads to lower selective pressure towards any one goal in females, since it is divided in a sense.

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[new] relatively more diversity (none / 0) (#6)
by fishes on Fri Apr 30th, 2010 at 05:16:25 PM PST
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I think the word "relatively" needs to be emphasized here. The traits that were being spoken about in the above few comments relating to female selection are traits that contribute to biological health and survival (and potentially good looks:)..). I propose that not only biological selection, but ALSO cultural selection (having the ability to provide for a family for example) have contributed to male selection pressure and that mainly biological pressures alone have contributed to female selection pressure. Therefore, I conclude that the selection pressures on males have been RELATIVELY more stringent than those on females in our culture. I mean if you think about it, almost all males have this "male bond". There are certain topics that men (from western cultures at least) can bring up and banter about for a while. Females on the other hand don't have as easy a time finding a common ground. Who knows, maybe it's just hormonal stability (or instability in the female case) causing this dichotomy.. The results of this study would be very cool though...

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